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I am in chat and I click on "site rooms":

site rooms

That directs me to:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=judaism.stackexchange.com j.se

BUT if I try to change the URL to:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=mi.yodeya.com
It looks like this: mi.se

It has the old beta design and NO chat rooms!

What is going on here???

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    So you invent a URL, type it in, and are surprised that you get strange results? – balpha May 29 '12 at 13:58
  • @balpha it still has the mi.yodeya logo and the like. – Naftali aka Neal May 29 '12 at 13:59
  • @balpha also the 2nd link should be the one going to the rooms since the name of the site changed. – Naftali aka Neal May 29 '12 at 13:59
  • Sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. If you just try random URLs, you can't have any expectation about the result. And I fail to see what the name of the site has to do with anything. – balpha May 29 '12 at 14:04
  • @balpha you cannot be serious. Why would the site name show up on the 2nd link? The official name for the site is mi.yodeya not judaism.se – Naftali aka Neal May 29 '12 at 14:11
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    @Naftali, this question seems to be predicated on your other request being resolved the way you want, which it hasn't to date. – Isaac Moses May 29 '12 at 14:14
  • @IsaacMoses it does not. why would the 2nd URL even SHOW the mi.yodeya logo if it was not associated with it at all?! – Naftali aka Neal May 29 '12 at 14:16
  • @Naftali, It probably has to do with the fact that that URL happens to redirect to J.SE. Try it with another URL that does that: miyodeya.com – Isaac Moses May 29 '12 at 14:21
  • @IsaacMoses nope: chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=miyodeya.com – Naftali aka Neal May 29 '12 at 14:22
  • @Naftali (Taking your word for it, as I can't access chat right now) Interesting. That would seem to imply that mi.yodeya.com is called out in chat's code, database, or settings somehow. – Isaac Moses May 29 '12 at 14:27
  • @Naftali the official host is judaism.SE - mi.yodeya.com is just a redirect. I will, however, see if I can get the alias code to at least make its mind up which styling to use – Marc Gravell May 30 '12 at 10:28
  • @Naftali for info, "miyodeya.com" is not listed in the official list of aliases for judaism.SE (see stackauth.com/sites, search for "Mi Yodeya") - which is why the image doesn't display on your own URL. If this is incorrect, let me know. – Marc Gravell May 30 '12 at 11:43
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I have fixed the issue with the UI being half-network-wide and half-site-specific (i.e. using the judaism images but the stackexchange background).

However! Your question is based on a false premise: as far as the system is concerned, the host for judaism is judaism.stackexchange.com; you might refer to it as mi.yodeya, but that does not make it the host. Chat is entirely correct to link to judaism.stackexchange.com, and not mi.yodeya.com (which exists only as a redirect).

Balpha is also correct to say that if you invent your own urls (based on nothing that the system has given you), then it is not unreasonable to expect odd results; however, the "half this and half that" offended my sense of correctness, even for an invalid URL.

If and when your other request comes to pass, then we would re-point those rooms. Until then: chat is correct.

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  • Do you know when my other request will come to fruition? – Naftali aka Neal May 30 '12 at 12:45
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    @Naftali I just write code ;p I'll ask... – Marc Gravell May 30 '12 at 13:04
  • kk cool, because since the offical name for this site now is Mi Yodeya, it would make sense to use the correct URL :-) – Naftali aka Neal May 30 '12 at 13:11
  • @Naftali now define "official name"... your browser, and the http stack - they all agree that, currently, "judaism.stackexchange.com" is the "official" point of reference. There's a difference between a name and a host. – Marc Gravell May 30 '12 at 13:50
  • Marc -- goto the site's creator @IsaacMoses -- When this was a 1.0 site the official URL and name was mi.yodeya.com – Naftali aka Neal May 30 '12 at 13:53
  • @Naftali I have asked the question internally; I don't have the context to provide much of an answer myself. – Marc Gravell May 30 '12 at 13:55
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    @Naftali, The site belongs to SEI. I, for one, am content to have the name I like on the graphics and in various text locations, to have a redirect URL that reflects that name, and to leave the official host URL as the one that binds the site technically and semantically with the rest of the SE network. – Isaac Moses May 30 '12 at 20:41

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