We have the following tags:

One question tagged with the also has either of the others: and it has both. Sixteen other questions are also tagged with both and .

What are all these tags for?

UPDATE: I've effected the following, from the answers and comments below: the tag is now merged into the tag, whose wiki indicates that it should be used also for questions that apply to shabas and yom tov equally. I have added the same advice to the tag wiki also.

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  • It seems below that we reached somewhat of a conclusion on the matter. Was it ever implemented? – Double AA Feb 16 '12 at 16:38
  • @DoubleAA, see update to the question. – msh210 Feb 16 '12 at 17:55

I don't think we should replace the shabbat and yomtov tags with a combined tag; it impedes tag search, as now you can't use the yomtov link to find all the yomtov questions.

Let's tag entries with whatever subset of shabbat, yomtov, and melacha is appropriate to each question. (Or if there are other considerations besides melacha, apply those tags instead.) If a question is about, say, differences between Shabbat and Yom Tov, it gets both. If it's about Shabbat restrictions that also apply on Yom Tov, it gets shabbat (only) -- we already understand that shabbat can apply to yom-tov, so we wouldn't double-tag.

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  • +1. So you're saying the shabbat-yomtov tag shouldn't exist at all. Do you think questions that apply equally to Shabas and yom tov should be tagged with both shabbat and yom-tov? – msh210 Oct 26 '11 at 20:22
  • @msh210, I don't. That would include a large subset of Shabbat questions and would therefore introduce unnecessary cumber. – Isaac Moses Oct 26 '11 at 20:25
  • @msh210, yes, that's what I'm saying: no shabbat-yomtov tag, and apply the shabbat and yomtov tags to questions they apply to, even if there's overlap. – Monica Cellio Oct 26 '11 at 20:52
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    @IsaacMoses, oh, I see what you're saying now, so let me reconsider my previous comment. if there's nothing "yom-tov"y about a question other than that it involves melacha forbidden on both, I wouldn't tag it yomtov. But if it's a question about differences between shabbat and yomtov I would. – Monica Cellio Oct 26 '11 at 20:54
  • Ah, then I guess you and the second paragraph in Isaac Moses's answer agree. – msh210 Oct 26 '11 at 21:18
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    @msh210, well, if there are really only 7 of them right now we should take a quick skim to make sure they really all belong in shabbat. So I wasn't sure about merge but that probably makes sense; mostly I want to kill the shabbat-yomtov tag. – Monica Cellio Oct 26 '11 at 21:26

Probably, what is supposed to be is more like .

Or, perhaps we should just merge it into and put a note in 's wiki indicating that this tag will be used for any issues that apply equally to Shabbat and Yom Tov, while any issues that apply differently on these two types of days will have both and .

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    +1. Note that "issues that apply equally to Shabbat and Yom Tov" may well be just those covered by melacha-creative-work, which brings us back to your first paragraph. – msh210 Oct 26 '11 at 20:22
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    @msh210, well, there are shared "Zachor"-oriented issues as well, potentially. Also Rabbinic "Shamor"-oriented issues, which may or may not deserve classification under "melacha." – Isaac Moses Oct 26 '11 at 20:24

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