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Jan 3 at 16:26 answer added EnocNRoll - AnandaGopal Pardue timeline score: 1
Nov 6, 2023 at 0:58 comment added Snack Exchange And exactly 4 years after your unfair firing Hamas started a surprise and brutal attack on Israel.
Dec 3, 2022 at 10:50 comment added Bilow What is the difference between revoking moderator status, and firing? What is the definition of firing? As a non-english native, I thought only employees could be fired from a company.
Aug 28, 2022 at 16:33 comment added user10100128 I thought I should add some additional context to my comment btw - I only make the above point because I personally feel that this whole debate we currently have around the freedom of speech issues has only occured because people began to say "you cannot do X" and "you cannot say Y"... It is not intended to be a controvertial point for the sake of controvercy, but I intended to make a broader point about how we came to be in such a situation. I hope I was not misunderstood.
Aug 28, 2022 at 15:51 comment added user10100128 (2/2) Assuming that I am correct, I don't really see how you can say "racism is not acceptable, full stop". I am not saying I personally wish people to do racist things, but this seems like a free speech issue - and part of free speech surely includes the freedom to say racist things. It's an all or nothing situation - you can't just pick and choose the types of speech you want. If being racist isn't ok, then by the same logic it may be that refusing to use someones perfered pronouns also isn't ok. Btw my sincere apologies if I misunderstood what happened here.
Aug 28, 2022 at 15:49 comment added user10100128 At the risk of sounding controvertial I would like to add a query here, which is this. First off, I will say that I am "reading between the lines here" and coming to the conclusion that SO wanted to implement some new diversity policy (maybe something along the lines of trans and pronouns) and that you disagreed with this. (1/2)
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Mar 30, 2020 at 23:54 comment added Turk Hill The goat for Azazel was not a bride to Satan but to symbolically remove sin (ibn Ezra).
Jan 30, 2020 at 0:08 answer added gamliela timeline score: 8
Dec 26, 2019 at 8:11 comment added Philip Schiff Astonishingly bad behavior from StackExchange. This certainly changes my opinion of this organization.
Dec 23, 2019 at 20:34 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Dec 9, 2019 at 16:56 comment added yhyrcanus @Maarten-reinstateMonica yeah you're right, that was poorly worded. I'll just say that there are a LOT more negative commandments in Halacha than positive ones.
Dec 7, 2019 at 17:48 comment added Maarten Bodewes @yhyrcanus "Note for the non-Jews out there: The anti-negative (don't do the bad thing) rather than the positive (do the good thing) has Jewish roots", wait what? No, no, no! I can grand you that such texts may be in your religious writings, but this is claiming that your religion has invented morality, and that it did decidedly not do. No religion can or should make that claim.
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Nov 3, 2019 at 23:24 comment added Monica Cellio @DonielF alas, continued ghosting from SE. I've had to hire a lawyer. :-(
Nov 3, 2019 at 23:12 comment added DonielF Any positive updates?
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Nov 3, 2019 at 3:14 comment added Alex @Salmononius2 meta.stackexchange.com/a/281798/390967
Nov 3, 2019 at 3:14 comment added Monica Cellio @Salmononius2 featuring auto-expires after a month. If you think it should remain featured you'll need to raise it with a moderator.
Nov 3, 2019 at 1:51 comment added Salmononius2 Why was this unfeatured? Can we get this featured again?
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Oct 29, 2019 at 1:29 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Oct 25, 2019 at 4:56 answer added Y     e     z timeline score: 23
Oct 24, 2019 at 0:59 comment added Monica Cellio @medica meta.stackexchange.com/q/336526/162102
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Oct 23, 2019 at 21:37 comment added LаngLаngС @medica That's just true. Monica may flag every action concerning herself, when originating from staff in recent weeks, as old&new CoC violation? "No bigotry!", bigotry: "obstinate and unreasonable attachment to a creed or opinion and intolerance of others," 1670s, from French bigoterie "sanctimoniousness," from bigot (see bigot)." Whether from staff, CoC itself, or those supporting it violently and with zeal, I seldom see anything that's not bigoted? It's just wrong on all levels, and I'm afraid it'll stay that way.
Oct 23, 2019 at 20:47 comment added anongoodnurse @MonicaCellio - I'll be looking out for it. This won't just blow away. You have a tremendous amount of support from users and mods.
Oct 23, 2019 at 0:27 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Oct 23, 2019 at 0:13 comment added Monica Cellio @medica I received email pointing me at the new processes and saying I can apply for reinstatement. Having read the documents, I will not do that because of serious fairness problems. I'll be putting up a new post tonight about the ongoing damage from the defamation, which they must address regardless of my moderator status.
Oct 21, 2019 at 21:19 comment added anongoodnurse @MonicaCellio - In light of the new mod removal/reinstatement process announced today, have you heard anything? Holding my breath here, honestly. I so much want this resolved in your favor. (aka anongoodnurse)
Oct 21, 2019 at 18:44 comment added Frank Luke For several weeks, I had been considering coming back to BH.SE to continue providing help to others in ways that I am qualified for. Seeing this done to Monica has me deciding to stay away.
Oct 18, 2019 at 8:30 answer added Mr. de Silva timeline score: 3
Oct 16, 2019 at 16:31 comment added sondra.kinsey Has anyone else observed the irony that @MonicaCellio herself posted a question several years ago about how Stack Overflow might handle a situation like this?
Oct 16, 2019 at 2:59 comment added DonielF @MonicaCellio So much for democratically elected. Sounds more like fascist or socialist “elections” where the government got to decide who could be on the ballot. Oy.
Oct 16, 2019 at 2:50 comment added Monica Cellio @DonielF SE might veto my candidacy; they've fordibly withdrawn candidates before. (Speculating; I don't know more than you do on that.) After all, the Mi Yodeya community didn't ask for me to be removed, either.
Oct 16, 2019 at 2:49 comment added DonielF @MonicaCellio If that fails, is there anything preventing us from just holding moderator elections and voting you back in?
Oct 16, 2019 at 2:45 comment added Monica Cellio @DonielF I hope so. I will not be surprised if the process is rigged against me, but the only way to know is to try. I wrote a lot more on my blog (i.e. not SE's platform). Sukkot was less bad than the yamim noraim were -- trying to get into that whole "rejoice" angle. It's still hard, though; SE is causing ongoing hurt and it looks like that'll continue for at least a few more weeks. There is a human cost that they don't seem to care about. :-(
Oct 16, 2019 at 2:41 comment added DonielF So glad to hear that there’s potential for their reinstating you - hope all goes well and looking forward to having you back soon! Have you feeling any better over Yom Tov?
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Oct 15, 2019 at 20:26 comment added Gary Wow. One step closer to Minority Report. You'll triumph in the end, Monica--you deserve it.
Oct 15, 2019 at 16:28 comment added kouty a new "Affaire Dreyfuss"?
Oct 13, 2019 at 19:53 comment added ag415 P.S. they're apparently mass-deleting answers and comments on the post announcing the new CoC change. I just checked it and it turns out that like a good half of the answers and comments people posted (most of which were very thoughtful, detailed and respectful) have been completely deleted.
Oct 13, 2019 at 19:52 comment added ag415 Looks like Stack Exchange is the latest addition to the list of communities that have been infiltrated and subjugated by political correctness and identity politics. Sadly, Monica is just a recent addition to the long list of people who have been victimized by this supposedly "progressive" movement. Sadly, I had a feeling something like this was going to eventually happen to SE and I was right. The same will probably happen to all of our communities eventually, and most of us will be banned or marginalized from them for not blindly following the herd
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Oct 9, 2019 at 14:07 comment added Gottfried Helms Just a note of a private follow up in another forum where I attend. Here linked to because I think it is (at least a bit) helpful for the personal, but also for the larger aspect of the thing. discourse.suttacentral.net/t/… . Appreciating your stand and that of the part of the community which speak out, and especially that who stand for ethical standards explicitely.
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Oct 7, 2019 at 20:38 comment added T.J.L. I am not of any religious belief, but I signed up here explicitly to express my support for you, Monica. It sounds like I do much the same as you do (use specific descriptors in place of pronouns whenever possible) and for much the same reason. I believe your concerns were valid, and I believe you were treated very poorly by the network. I hope things work out in your favor.
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Oct 6, 2019 at 21:20 comment added Alex meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334551/…
Oct 6, 2019 at 13:58 answer added Dɑvïd timeline score: 23
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Oct 5, 2019 at 13:25 comment added Ken Graham I am not even of your religious beliefs, Monica and I find this whole thing so distasteful. Whatever happens, I do wish you all the best. May the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob look after you!
Oct 4, 2019 at 2:29 answer added DonielF timeline score: 93
Oct 3, 2019 at 21:41 answer added einpoklum timeline score: 20
Oct 3, 2019 at 20:58 answer added Stilez timeline score: 34
Oct 3, 2019 at 20:05 comment added Monica Cellio @YaacovDeane moderators don't get paid, aside from the occasional t-shirt or hat back when the company did swag. I think "fired" applies to getting rid of volunteers, too. Sorry for any confusion. (And thanks for what you wrote. Seeing the outpouring of support from my community has helped make a terrible situation a little less terrible.)
Oct 3, 2019 at 19:58 comment added Yaacov Deane @MonicaCellio I'm sorry to hear that you are on the receiving end of such action. My personal experience with you on Mi Yodeya has been consistently fair and even-handed. It's hard to imagine how anyone who has actually had contact with you can associate 'exclusionary' as one of your character traits. The loss to SE will ultimately be an aliyah for you, with G-d's help. May you be completely sealed for revealed good only. I didn't even know that the Moderators can/do get some kind of remuneration from SE.
Oct 3, 2019 at 18:14 comment added Monica Cellio @DonielF the description of the teams question is accurate (those are my words). The moderator who linked to the post in TL was not the one who asked the question, and that moderator used the word "bigot" or "bigoted" in reference to me/my answer (that part's from memory). Sara's claims that I violated the CoC are wrong (as already noted). Tangentially, I also question her claim that they take the CoC seriously given things that were said to me in TL in front of employees with no action.
Oct 3, 2019 at 18:09 comment added DonielF @Monica How accurate is this article in summing up the situation?
Oct 3, 2019 at 15:32 comment added Kevin That's unfortunate, but not unexpected. For what it's worth, I support you and your points of view in the situation, and they haven't clarified or answered anything about the new terms in the TL since either.
Oct 3, 2019 at 15:27 comment added Monica Cellio @Kevin nope. I got one piece of email explaining why they're making this change, I replied with questions (including the one, again, about whether they mean when using pronouns or something more proactive), and got no further reply, though I was promised one (more than once). Instead, four days later, they fired me. About diamonds, they said that if I can't get on board with the new policy it would be better for me to resign now, but there was no threat and since there were questions still pending about the policy, I didn't think that signalled imminent action.
Oct 3, 2019 at 15:25 comment added Kevin Monica, I hope you see this through all the cruft, I bet your inbox is overloaded. I noticed staff didn't actually answer any of your questions or clarify anything at all in the TL discussions, did you ever get answers or clarifications about policy questions over email or another medium? And did they at any time answer your question that yes, your diamonds are in danger?
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:44 answer added WGroleau timeline score: 34
Oct 2, 2019 at 16:19 comment added April Salutes Monica C. The way I explain the problem with Golden Rule (when teaching Tech Writing, the Ethics sections) is imagine Bert & Ernie (Sesame Street) as roommates. Bert buys ice cream for himself, assumes if Ernie wanted it, he'd buy it for himself. Ernie views it as a community resource, eats some ice cream, and next time he goes shopping he'll buy ice cream. So Bert thinks Ernie is a jerk, when Ernie was just applying a different "as you would have done unto you" to the situation. He thinks of the kitchen as a communal space, not a grouping of individual items with distinct ownership.
Oct 2, 2019 at 16:02 comment added yhyrcanus Note for the non-Jews out there: The anti-negative (don't do the bad thing) rather than the positive (do the good thing) has Jewish roots. The most obvious example being the golden rule: "Do onto other's as you would like done to you" leads to logical issues (What if I like being hit with a stick? Should I assume you like the same? When I want dinner, should I buy enough for the entire world? What if you don't like the same food I like? etc), and therefore is given by Rav Hillel as "Do not do to others what is hateful to you." I can see gendering falling into the same logical traps.
Oct 2, 2019 at 15:03 answer added Ian Ringrose timeline score: 41
Oct 2, 2019 at 1:13 comment added dan It must be some solace to at least know how well-liked and supported you are…and you're still alive to hear all the accolades :-) Happy New Year btw (it might end up not so bad in the end).
Oct 2, 2019 at 1:11 comment added dan @MonicaCellio We're all human beings, until they replace all the moderators with AI bots (at least you won't have to suffer that indignation). And you seem like a fairly respectful and sensitive one to me, so it's kind of ironic that the issue of respect and sensitivity is what initiated this. Have hope though, I hear a petition has been started based on the comments here.
Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 comment added Monica Cellio This is not how I ever expected to earn Great Answer and Famous Question badges on meta...
Oct 2, 2019 at 0:56 comment added Monica Cellio Thanks for the review, @dan. I know we always start out biased toward our own perspective so I tried to be careful, but I was also writing in haste due to the circumstances. I try to fairly represent events that I'm reporting; being an imperfect human I don't always get it right, but I think it's an important trait for a person, and especially a person in any position of authority or influence, to pursue.
Oct 2, 2019 at 0:54 comment added Monica Cellio @FilipMilovanović actually, I think I can cover the salient points in the question itself. See my update (the footnote).
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Oct 2, 2019 at 0:47 comment added dan Most often people represent their side of the story in self-supporting ways or with embellishments. To better understand what took place, I tracked through the comments in the Teacher's Lounge and found your recounting of things to be quite factual. I don't think you did anything wrong. Discussing new policies and expressing your opinion is what the chat rooms and Meta is all about. Through an open discussion, policies get clarified and improved upon where needed.In this case, it appears policies were enforced that have yet to even be announced. This seems very wrong and heavy-handed to me..
Oct 2, 2019 at 0:36 comment added Monica Cellio @FilipMilovanović I deleted that answer pending a more careful review of my notes, rather than writing only from memory, after learning that at least one person had thought I was talking about someone I wasn't. I do intend to update it and undelete, but maybe not tonight. Frankly, I'm tired and a lot of stuff piled up over the holiday.
Oct 2, 2019 at 0:31 comment added Heshy For comparison, the top voted question on the main site only has +119 judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/12760/…
Oct 2, 2019 at 0:28 comment added Gerold Broser Not my platform!
Oct 1, 2019 at 20:04 comment added Cyn The moderators of Writing.SE have put out a statement. writing.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2228/…
Oct 1, 2019 at 18:08 comment added Filip Milovanović What happened to your answer - the one where you provided extra details? Did you yourself remove it?
Oct 1, 2019 at 13:15 comment added April Salutes Monica C. @Cyn, Dang, it looks like I maybe got my wish, that BOTH candidates in Writing.SE could have gotten elected.
Oct 1, 2019 at 10:02 comment added Obie 2.0 I'd like to know more about the statements which the company claims justified this response. I don't see it mentioned in this post, and depending on what they were, reactions could be very different.
Oct 1, 2019 at 7:50 comment added Secespitus @Cyn You forgot Beer, Wine & Spirits and The Workplace
Oct 1, 2019 at 2:52 comment added Cyn @April et al, yeah, they stripped Monica of her diamonds on every site she was a moderator for. I may not remember the full list but it does include: Mi Yodeya, Writing, Worldbuilding, and Meta.
Oct 1, 2019 at 0:56 comment added Nat Is there any way we could get a more concrete account of what happened? I mean, I usually have a good opinion of both StackExchange's employees and the moderation staff, including @MonicaCellio, such that it's unexpected to see issues like this. Given this unexpected development, it'd be good to have a concrete assessment of the situation to better make sense of it. (It'd probably be easier to make assumptions if I thought one side of this was malicious, but since that's not the case, it's a bit more complicated.)
Sep 30, 2019 at 19:29 answer added Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' timeline score: 114
Sep 30, 2019 at 19:24 comment added Dawood ibn Kareem So sorry to read about this, Monica. Stack Exchange was a much better place with you than without.
Sep 30, 2019 at 18:49 comment added April Salutes Monica C. Monica, are we losing you on Writing.SE too?
Sep 30, 2019 at 17:27 comment added user19882 Good luck, whatever happens. I've always seen you as one of the core SE users; apparently they think you're a disposable tool.
Sep 30, 2019 at 16:28 comment added Charlie Brumbaugh I too just joined to upvote this and to say that I have always though of you as one of the best moderators. I wish you the best at whatever you choose to do next
Sep 30, 2019 at 16:17 comment added user19879 Like @Magisch, I'm making a new account here just to write how upset I am about this and to express how positive an impact on SE I've always seen you have.
Sep 30, 2019 at 13:58 comment added EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine I've always had positive interactions with you. I have a very hard time believing that there was any kind of misconduct (intentional or otherwise), and vague insinuations from SE won't change that.
Sep 30, 2019 at 13:35 comment added EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine I'm shocked - I've always seen you as an excellent, even-handed moderator. I don't know the full context, but this seems egregiously unfair.
Sep 30, 2019 at 12:18 comment added Peter Mortensen cont': Process, like Scrum, may interfere, though. This is the second time within two months something like this happens for Stack Exchange on a Friday.
Sep 30, 2019 at 12:18 comment added Peter Mortensen Friday has never been a good day to "ship", set new things in motion, sacking, or other drastic measures. If memory is a problem, write it down (a good idea in any case), consider it over several nights of sleep, and then do it early in the week. -
Sep 30, 2019 at 12:17 comment added Peter Mortensen Monica is the role model moderator - the exemplary moderator all other moderators should look up to. Can someone clear up this gross communication failure?
Sep 30, 2019 at 9:51 comment added None I didn't know you before gilles posted on FL, and from all the comments one can tell you are a great person. I just joined to let you know how infuriating I find SE behaviour.
Sep 30, 2019 at 8:47 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution "...my values were out of alignment..." Often enough it looks like StackExchange's values are out of alignment lately. Anyway, thanks Monica for your great work. It is always a nice experience reading your thoughtful contributions.
Sep 30, 2019 at 6:48 comment added Secespitus Wow, that's.... I don't know what to say. Please know that you are by far the best person I have met that could be a moderator on any of the sites I have visited throughout my time here on the StackExchange network. StackExchange has done a lot of bad things in the past that I didn't like, but this...? This is on a whole different level...
Sep 30, 2019 at 6:11 comment added Magisch I made a new account here just to write this - I'm appalled by this action and the lack of response forthcoming. As far as I'm concerned, this is nigh on unforgivable.
Sep 29, 2019 at 22:27 answer added Cyn timeline score: 56
Sep 29, 2019 at 21:07 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 29, 2019 at 20:19 comment added user19835 In the political language, "diversity" means "conformity" - and siding with the aggressor instead of the victim, this is kind of behavior, which one can often find among narcissistic psychopaths. Their words simply do not match their actions. Don't try to understand them (for your own sanity), because there is nothing to understand - ze rak meshuggah.
Sep 29, 2019 at 17:56 comment added user18981 Hey, Monica. I haven't been around on Stack Exchange much in the past few months. But from what I remember about your interactions in the TL, you were always civil and courteous even while raising objections to the norm or during the so-called arguments. You were certainly one of the ideal moderators on the network. It's extremely unfortunate that this incident happened. Nevertheless, good luck with all your future endeavors. Stay well!
Sep 29, 2019 at 16:37 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 29, 2019 at 16:29 comment added DonielF Of all the people for this to possibly happen to, you are the absolute last person who I’d suspect of abusing mod privileges. You’ve been nothing but helpful and kind in your interactions on SE; while I mostly stick to MY, I’ve seen you in action on other sites also, particularly Worldbuilding, and see the same pattern there. I can’t believe this would happen, and know that you have our full support.
Sep 29, 2019 at 16:24 history edited Monica Cellio CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 29, 2019 at 15:21 comment added user17026 This has been referenced on MSE
Sep 29, 2019 at 10:27 comment added Richard I could tell you were on your way out. Truth to power doesn't sit well with SE
Sep 29, 2019 at 9:09 comment added user17026 Aside a few mods leaving recently for various reasons, several moderators have left across the network because of this (in protest). SE is going to feel this one
Sep 29, 2019 at 6:39 history edited Alex CC BY-SA 4.0
https://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7928961#7928961
Sep 29, 2019 at 6:13 comment added Stormblessed By director do you mean CM?
Sep 29, 2019 at 6:00 history tweeted twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/1178187807451488256
Sep 29, 2019 at 5:33 history edited Alex CC BY-SA 4.0
This Meta post has been linked on multiple other places on the network, so there will likely be many readers who aren't familiar with these Hebrew names..
Sep 29, 2019 at 5:28 comment added gparyani If you wouldn't mind sharing a copy of the email you received, as well as what you best remember of the false allegations made against you, that would be very nice.
Sep 29, 2019 at 4:26 comment added Monica Cellio Thanks @mbloch; I'll consider that tomorrow. I didn't get much sleep last night nor rest today, so I'm going to (try to) sleep on that. (I'm likely to attract the same kinds of personal attacks there that I received in TL, so have to decide if it's worth it.)
Sep 29, 2019 at 4:23 comment added mbloch I would welcome a similar post on meta.stackexchange.com so we can express support there as well
Sep 29, 2019 at 4:22 answer added mbloch timeline score: 146
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